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    Ah I "hate" those lol
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    Hey, Bob, look at what I found in a boneyard recently. It has been custom made for a Venture and has a secondary gas tank. Is it worth looking at?

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    If it is really custom made I would steer clear of it because there is no way to tell whether the person who assembled the frame had a clue about sidecar design or welding and it could be dangerous. If it is a commercially made sidecar with a custom mounting kit for the Yamaha (or with a universal kit and a custom made subframe) it might be worth looking at. I'm sure I have seen a sidecar very much like that before but I can't remember what the brand was, but that doesn't mean that some amateur didn't copy a commercial body... Have a good look at it and see if there is a plate attached with the builder's name &c.

    Of course, the next thing if it does turn out to be a decent sidecar is what do you want to attach it to and would they make suitable combination? The first consideration is how heavy it is; Ideally the sidecar should weigh approx. 25-33% the weight of the bike (too heavy could cause undue stresses on the bike, too light could result in a twisted sidecar frame), If that sidecar was near the heavy end of suitable for the venture it would probably be too heavy for a CX but if it was near the light end it could be fine.
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    I would have to say it seemed to be on the heavy side... I'll probably just let it go. Kind of a cool dream, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Sams View Post
    Hey, Bob, look at what I found in a boneyard recently.
    Where is this bone yard? I love wandering through those.
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    Near Fort Ripley. It's kind of a "you gotta know the guy" place, but I'd be happy to take you there sometime. When it warms up.
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    Definitely when it warms up. BRRRRRR.
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    Bob do you know if we have any places like this in Ontario?
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    Bike wreckers? There are a few... https://www.google.ca/search?newwind...i:2,lf_pqs:EAE

    I think The Bike Yard in Caledon is the closest to you according to that but ask around other people in your area with old Hondas because there might be something that doesn't show up there. For example, right now I'm shopping for an engine for my '83 'Wing (the one in it is OK but it is a 1000 and the 1100 has different gearing) and I have been in touch with a couple of backyard operators about it.
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    So Monday I pulled the rear wheel off, cleaned everything up and decided not to change the tire after all. There was 10mm of tread at the TWIs when new and there is still 2mm left and the tread at the outer edges looks like new, complete with all the little hairs (happens when the bike only leans a couple of degrees). Since it took over 7500 Km to use up the first 8mm and I am averaging around 50 Km per week now that I don't have to drive to work every day I figure it should last the rest of the season.

    One of the reasons I was anxious to have the wheel off was to check the splines. When I put that tire on I discovered that an o-ring had broken and road grit had found its way into the grease in the splines and ground them down quite a bit. I put the best old spline flange I had on the wheel with some used o-rings (close but not perfect) and fresh, clean grease but I had some doubt about whether those not so perfect o-rings would hold up and whether the splines were even more worn. And I have replacement final drive and spline flange that forum friends gave me (thanks again guys) ready to install. But the rings held, the grease had no signs of dirt and the splines looked just like they did last year. So I cleaned it all out, installed new o-rings (I bought a lifetime supply last fall so I won't have to use old ones again), added fresh, clean grease. I also plated & buffed the exposed ends of the axle, the spacer and the nut.

    And I had it back together in time to go for the mail on Tuesday.
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