Close
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 14

Thread: Standard frame

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    121
    Some of you may have seen my frame on my blog My link not good! So I was wondering if anyone in the UK has a spare solid frame for sale, or has anyone managed to rescue a frame in this condition? Any thoughts / suggestions welcome.





    Cheers - Shirty

  2. #2
    Senior Member stern-69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    6,126
    Hmmm, looked at the picks you have of the frame. Seems there are a few rust holes, but from the pics none really appeared to me to be so big as to cause any concern based on there location. If you have access to a welder, they are simple enough to fix, providing the damage doesnt stretch more than 1/3 the tubes diameter, in which case a patch welded over it would fix it up fine. The frames on these bike (like any other metal things) will rust faster in areas where the come into contact with other bits that help hold moisture there and provide a bit of mechanical agitation.

    If it were me (and I had similar spots on my GL1000 frame that when investigated turned out to be non issues) I would patch up any problem holes like this, even if just for looks and to keep the tubes inside isolated. Since the frame is naked (and appears primed) it wouldnt mess you up to bad to do some welding fixes and re-priming. I would see if you can find someone that can weld AND knows about metal structures to see if there are actually worse than they look, but from the pics it looks far more stable than some bikes on the road I have seen (where people weld tubing on and cut the frame in spots).

  3. #3
    Super Moderator Blindstitch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Greenfield Wisconsin
    Posts
    14,182
    If a new frame cant be found I would probably take a grander cut off wheel to the section that has the most holes and see if it's just a few rust holes or if the whole thing is compromised. If there is good metal near there I would cut out the bad section and weld in a new piece.



    I would also fix the engine mount but since the cx500 has basically 4 mounting points at the frame i don't think it's going anywhere.
    1968 Honda CT90 Trail-Yellow Monster project
    1979 Honda CX500 Supertanker 72,000 miles.
    1983 Honda Gl650I Falcon-killer 70,000 miles.
    Pictures of my bikes Past and Present.



    Quick Reference Sheps Forum Supertanker Build Back up Info ⇒ Free Factory Service Manuals ⇐

  4. #4
    Senior Member Reg in Bristol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Bristol-UK
    Posts
    3,552
    pretty typical

    I've fixed a fair few like it and some worse than that

    They all rot from the inside out and in the same places BTW

    so good second hand ones aren't common.

    I had on here that looked bit lumpy so I scraped at the lumps and found

    some eejit had filled the rot holes with silicon sealer!

    Oh how we larfed !



    Typical Honda rot IMO though to be fair, they probably werent thinking 30+

    years ahead

    I always flood my tubework with ACF50 or old engine oil after

    painting and drill injection holes in the footrest hangers and

    engine hangers so I can give em a good squirt of antirustoprene/jollop from time to time



    Tip: while the swinging arms off give it a good clout and shake it

    if its silent its good, if it sounds like its got gravel inside, its rotting

    ditto the oil flood trick after welding/repair as well
    I started to resurrect my site at
    http://tinkrin.netau.net/index.html
    but TBH, cant be arsed

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    121
    Thanks for replies so far, I feel a little easier having read them! When I first saw the holes I just thought it was scrap!



    Would it be better to cut the bad sections out & roll some sheet to suit & patch it back in, or try & fill the holes with weld?



    I already know that the cross member on the swinging arm will also need attention!





    Cheers

  6. #6
    715
    715 is offline
    715's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    northern wi
    Posts
    33
    On the tube sections, I would cut the bad areas out and get some new tube or chop an old frame to weld in. Don't cut the tube off, just remove enough material to get to good metal. Same on the other areas, just use flat stock and make it fit the area you cut out. I did this on a cl 350 where they typically rust out and it worked fine.
    1982 gl 500 (3)

    1982 cx 500

  7. #7
    715
    715 is offline
    715's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    northern wi
    Posts
    33
    I forgot to add, if you weld a small wire or something to hang on to your patch, it is easier to retrieve if it drops in the frame accidentally.
    1982 gl 500 (3)

    1982 cx 500

  8. #8
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    121
    Quote Originally Posted by aguyino View Post
    I forgot to add, if you weld a small wire or something to hang on to your patch, it is easier to retrieve if it drops in the frame accidentally.


    Thanks, for both replies, good advice!





    Cheers

  9. #9
    Senior Member stern-69's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    6,126
    Quote Originally Posted by Reg in Bristol View Post
    pretty typical

    I've fixed a fair few like it and some worse than that

    They all rot from the inside out and in the same places BTW

    so good second hand ones aren't common.

    I had on here that looked bit lumpy so I scraped at the lumps and found

    some eejit had filled the rot holes with silicon sealer!

    Oh how we larfed !



    Typical Honda rot IMO though to be fair, they probably werent thinking 30+

    years ahead

    I always flood my tubework with ACF50 or old engine oil after

    painting and drill injection holes in the footrest hangers and

    engine hangers so I can give em a good squirt of antirustoprene/jollop from time to time



    Tip: while the swinging arms off give it a good clout and shake it

    if its silent its good, if it sounds like its got gravel inside, its rotting

    ditto the oil flood trick after welding/repair as well


    Great idea, when I redue my bike Im going to do the tube oil flush idea

  10. #10
    Senior Member noah240t's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Santa Cruz CA
    Posts
    263
    If it were mine, and I were going to repair it. I would invest a couple dollars in some rust converter primer and spray into every tube I could get into. Its just cheap insurance to prevent it from continuing from rusting out.



    ALSO, I have a 79 frame sitting out in the driveway. If you want to look into how much it might cost to ship and all that. I will give it to you. You would have to re vin it to your numbers. Im in California 95062, Im sure shipping would be a 1-200 dollars and Im sure you could find one on your side but I just wanted to offer.



    Good luck with the project!
    1980 CX500 Custom

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Sponsors

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Similar Threads

  1. $400 78' Standard near me (CT)
    By square tire in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 05-30-2013, 10:25 AM
  2. gl500 lower frame rust, are gl650 frame the same?
    By johnnyboy666 in forum Technical Help Forum
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 02-17-2013, 07:39 PM
  3. What the Standard should have been
    By TonyR in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 06-15-2012, 01:57 AM
  4. What is CX "Standard"
    By Condo in forum General Discussion
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-06-2011, 03:51 PM
  5. Custom vs Standard vs Deluxe: Frame
    By jmcookesq in forum CX Customization and Modifications
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 08-26-2010, 09:05 PM

Search tags for this page

welding gl1000 frame

Click on a term to search for related topics.