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    not many use them

    just home guys

    all the builders i know are not using them

    racingsmith in winston ben used them once on a cb900c and it had a few issues with spokes as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kameron View Post
    ITS INCORRECT AND WILL HAVE FAILURE = YOU KISSING THE ASPHALT
    Please do not exaggerate

    Often it starts unremarked with the breakage of one spoke.
    You don't remark it, You don't hear ist.
    After a certain time the spokes in der neighborhoud will break.
    The friend's rear tire began to grind at the swingarm.
    The wheel became out of round.
    So strong that the tire just braked.
    So he could not drive this bike.

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    By chance some weeks ago, I saw that two spokes in the rear wheel were broken on my motorcycle with side car.
    The spokes in their neighborhood sound dull because they were loose.
    The wheel became out of round about circa 10 mm..
    On a bike with sidecar You don't remarke in a sudden.

    Good tensioned spokes have a bright sound.
    Bad tensioned spokes have a dull sound.
    Each spoke has to have the same bright sound.
    "Soundtester" ;-)) is -for example- a spanner.


    When spokes on the cross touch each other it's wrong. It will have a dull sound because they are bent.
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    Originally Posted by Kameron ITS INCORRECT AND WILL HAVE FAILURE = YOU KISSING THE ASPHALT
    Today, 12:46 PM #12
    "guelli02"

    Please do not exaggerate

    wolfgang he is not exaggerating

    just google" spoke wheel catastrophic failure " and you will find that the big issue is when a spoke breaks in a turn

    often what happens is the spoke punctures the tube resulting in a sudden flat and the driver loosing control i have had this happen myself

    on a fully dressed gl1000 NOT FUN i was just able to get the bike stopped with out loosing control

    here is a example

    Catastrophic Wheel Failure - Bike Forums

    and here is whst happens when the spokes are fit wrong and are the wrong angle and this is from a professional company

    not back yard guys

    https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-201...2011-30612.htm

    do some research its your bike your life (and this is directed at members not charles )
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    spoke wheel catastrophic failure

    With this term i did a google picture search.
    The most found pictures are failures with bicycles some car wheel and not motobikes.

    In the first link I did not read that the spoked wheel was properly maintained as it should.
    A visual inspection and a sound test should be done frequently.
    A ComStar wheel must not checked, an aluminium or magnesium should be some times checked.

    A broken spoke can not puncture the tyre tube.
    The nipples sit under a special rubber lining.just to avaoid the contact between nipple and tube. When the thread of the spoke looks out of the nipple it must be grinded off.

    do some research its your bike your life (and this is directed at members not charles )
    What's the difference between members and Charles ?

    To use these bent spokes
    http://cx500forum.com/forum/attachme...ngs-spokes.jpg
    i get a quicker heart beat.

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    you can claim all you want but here is the deal

    the moto-synthesis ring is a unproven non engineered solution developed to bring a look !

    that has not been tested or certified they are not even made out of the ideal material for the application

    it is drilled and chamfered in such a way that the spokes do not seat correctly in the countersink

    so stress is applied to the head of the spoke and not distributed correctly

    then to get around most of the problems the rings are sold bare

    then owners install them themselves without full knowledge of what they are doing

    or how to lace them correctly (if possible) or if spokes are available to do what the owner wants

    most are just after the cheapest way to get that look possible with no concern for safety

    so have the last word but in a lot of countries (canada for one) if an accident happens

    then the claim will be denied due to item like this
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    "do some research its your bike your life (and this is directed at members not charles )"

    this comment was stated to member considering this

    charles has a lot more experience and has already done his research into this and i wanted to acknowledge that
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    Quote Originally Posted by guelli02 View Post

    The reason You see here:
    Attachment 79457
    Each second bore has a countersink for the head.
    In this countersing sits the conical head of the spoke.
    That is saying: Each second spoke is put in into the ring from the outside,... the others from the inside.
    These rings will be okay.

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    you have never even held a set of these in your hands or looked at any that have been laced by people

    that dont know what they are doing using the incorrect spokes

    or tried to lace one your self

    yet you are ready to state that they are good

    you make me laugh !

    tell you what put a set on your bike if you are so confident they wont go one mine
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    I've had a spoked rear wheel completely collapse on a Kl 250 trail bike I once had. The broken spokes may not get driven through the tube/tyre but the adjacent unbroken spokes do. They will go through nipple and all.

    I had to ride 40 km of dirt roads on that collapsed wheel. The bike would only go forward diagonally with my foot sliding speedway style. It could be flopped from one side to the other and I kept changing as my legs got sore or to take bends.

    My thighs were so sore I had trouble walking for days.
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    i think this has descended to where fact mean nothing

    only the last word counts
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