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    Quote Originally Posted by Pim205GTI View Post
    I have such a set available if anybody is interested. Almost brand new, somebody try to run a Turbo engine without a turbo, not a success
    I can imagine how bad that motor would have run without the turbo. The camshaft and ignition timing would have killed any attempt at making power. These pistons would give a turbo bike a noticeable boost.
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    I just got my flywheel back in the mail. I had Ray down in Florida get it machined to take a few ounces off. The starting photo is on the left at 152 oz, finished is in the middle at 123 oz. so about 19% reduction in weight. The third photo is one of JimL's total loss flywheels, wow, that will make a motor spin.

    I think I mentioned earlier that Turbo Tim is coming in on Sunday to assist, supervise, and/or keep me from making really dumb mistakes with the reassembly. I am guessing Tim has had more turbo motors apart than anyone in the world, so I am honored and thrilled to get his guidance.

    Something interesting when I was cleaning up the motor that we will be building, I noticed it was a bit banged up. The mount on the rear of the case where the H box fits was damaged and there were some other gouges on the block. Later as I was checking serial numbers on my various 650 engines I noticed the block in my race bike had the same serial number as the one I was building. When I looked further the motor in the bike had numbers that were done in a shop, like what we used to do at Honda and BMW in the 70's. So I am guessing an early owner of this bike had dumped it and the dealer totaled the motor and put a new one in. As best I can tell, the damage is just cosmetics and I do not see any potential oil leaks, but that's what JB Weld and Toyota FIPG are for, right?

    Anyway, the cases are clean and painted with VHT satin black and ready to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edinlr View Post
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    I just got my flywheel back in the mail. I had Ray down in Florida get it machined to take a few ounces off. The starting photo is on the left at 152 oz, finished is in the middle at 123 oz. so about 19% reduction in weight. The third photo is one of JimL's total loss flywheels, wow, that will make a motor spin.
    Hello Ed, why is it an advantage to have a light flywheel for a landspeed bike ? Is it so you can shift faster so you don't loose traction ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pim205GTI View Post
    Hello Ed, why is it an advantage to have a light flywheel for a landspeed bike ? Is it so you can shift faster so you don't loose traction ?
    The flywheel weight is a factor in how fast a motor will accelerate. A lighter flywheel will allow a motor to accelerate quicker, but it will also lose speed between shifts quicker too, so it can hurt your performance. In the case of the 650 turbo, I like the idea of building rpm's quicker, especially with the rpm drop in the 4-5 shift. I am hoping that 19% less weight might allow me to build rpm just a touch quicker now. This is not an original idea, the dirt track guys have done this for years to tune a bike to a particular track or surface. JimL made the "button" flywheel above which really allowed his motors to rev.
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    Okay so Turbo Tim got into town on Sunday and we got started trying to put the pile of motor parts back into some order. We did pretty well until I lost the little washer and nut that go on the end of the cam. As soon as I had pulled them off of a spare motor I found the original stuck to the bottom of one of my magnetic catch cans. The motor turned over great and we spun it with the started and a battery to check all of the gear positions. I am not going to install this motor until after we race in Maine in May. Why wait? I am just curious to know the maximum performance of last year's motor. With my glitches at Bonneville, I never got a good read on what 110-115 horsepower would do on this package, so I will have three days in Maine to beat the motor up and see how close we are to Bonneville records. As soon as we get back I can install this motor and have time for one test at the Arkansas mile and then off to the Salt Flats. If the old motor can hit 133-135 then I can keep it as a spare for Bonneville. Good plan, huh? This reminds me of the country song where they say if you want to hear God laugh, just tell him YOUR plans.

    I did include a couple car shots as Tim got distracted with the goodies around our car compound and had to go get photos.
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    The sideways images have something to do with the orientation of the camera when taking the picture. This is recorded in the EXIF file for the image. If the EXIF data is stripped from the photo they will orient properly. I notice with your photos if you right click on the image then select view image, they are shown in the correct orientation.
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    The pic thing has come up before. See here. Sideways pictures
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    I was planning to run last year's motor one more time at Loring, Maine this week. The forecast of 90% chance of rain convince me that this could be a waste of time, so I will try to run at the Arkansas Mile in June. I am disappointed to not make the trip but driving 1700+ miles each way with a strong chance of rain is just bad odds in my book. I would still like to race there this year and that will be my backup plan if the salt is too wet this summer.
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    When are you heading to Bonneville this year? I am hoping to be there sometime over August 12-13 for speed week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach_Godel View Post
    When are you heading to Bonneville this year? I am hoping to be there sometime over August 12-13 for speed week.
    Yes, I am planning to go. We may go towards the latter part of the week and then stay over to race at the AMA event later in the month. Opening day for Speedweek is a definite bucket list item as you will see some of the coolest vehicles in the world and then be able to watch them go off and run 400+ mph.
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