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#1 User is offline   n8love 

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:21 AM

I just picked up an 81 CX500 Custom. The bike looks to be in great shape. 10k plus change on her. Running a little hot, but I've been down that road before (probably couldn't be worse than the seized impeller, cracked fan, and blow mech seal on my previous GL500). Anyway, the former owner recently installed a new Kenda Cruiser S/T tire in the front. The tire looks to be in perfect condition except for a shallow cut along the left sidewall. The cut is maybe 1/16th inch deep and about 8 inches long and runs parallel to the rim about 3/4 inch from the rim. The question is: should this make me nervous?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:37 AM

I'd probably inflate it to 60 psi and have a look at it again - if it has opened up a lot I would probably replace it, but 1/16th " is not very deep - is it like a razor cut or maybe like a box cutter style - I'd be concerned if someone had tried to slash the tire?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:57 AM

As an Ex tyre fitter I would recommend you replace the tyre or at the very least get it checked at a reputable dealer.Painful as it may be on cost we only have two small points of contact on the ground on a motorcycle so they need to be 100%.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:33 AM

If it follows the profile of the tire exactly it may be a manufacturing mistake. I worked at a tire factory before - if the "builder" just gets a drop of sweat on the rubber it can cause an issue. Maybe if the previous owner has the receipt you could take it back and have it replaced?

I hate to say it but I too would be nervous about riding on a tire that appears to be coming apart.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 07:15 AM

Like others said, I'd replace it. A front tire is under $100, a blow out is going to cost you much more than that.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:21 AM

I agree with everyone on swapping it out. Mostly because we only have two tires, and an issue with one can be a serious problem. On the other hand if it is as shallow as you describe and you don't see any visible cord material, its probably just a cosmetic issue. I would still replace it just to be safe.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:35 AM

I'd agree with the "don't take that chance" group. But for the chance, can you post a picture?
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:25 AM

View PostShep, on 12 June 2012 - 04:57 AM, said:

As an Ex tyre fitter I would recommend you replace the tyre or at the very least get it checked at a reputable dealer.Painful as it may be on cost we only have two small points of contact on the ground on a motorcycle so they need to be 100%.

My 2 cents.

HTH :)


I'm in the play it safe camp. I wouldn't bother taking it somewhere, they're just going to tell you to replace it. Not because they want to sell you one, but if they tell you it's fine and it does blow you could possibly sue them.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:59 AM

View PostMattPie, on 12 June 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

I'm in the play it safe camp. I wouldn't bother taking it somewhere, they're just going to tell you to replace it. Not because they want to sell you one, but if they tell you it's fine and it does blow you could possibly sue them.


Even 30 years ago here in the UK it was our legal obligation to inform a customer not to drive the car out of the depot if a tyre was faulty and or not legal.Some thought we were touting for business but we weren't as it was the law and part of the Business licence and codes of practice.I saw some pretty horrendous tyre states come in like totally bald tyres with carcass chords showing :blink:

Conversely I'll never forget an old gent who lived out in the country and was obviously a sedate driver.He came in wanting a new set of Michelins,as that's what were on the car.He had had them on since new and this was an old car even then,a Morris Minor.

When I took the tyres off they still had legal tread depth but I couldn't find the same mark as these were,"Michelin X" and I found out they had stopped making them years ago.I asked him how many miles they had done and he looked inside the car at the Odometer and came back and said,"98,000 miles"!!!!! :blink: :blink:

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:03 AM

Thanks for all the responses, folks! My gut feeling is replace it, if only for the peace of mind. Seems a shame as it really is perfect and new otherwise. I think I will try calling the previous owner to get the purchase details (good idea, Fib). Maybe he does still have a receipt. I'll try to post a photo later.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 11:14 AM

Check how old the tyre is.

Click here,

http://www.tyres-pne...ml#TyreMarkings


Most manufacturers recommend changing if over 7 years old no matter what.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:27 PM

I'll officially vote for the Ride-it-till-it-pops group just to be different.

really though, at least get it looked at by someone who knows tires. If it is enough of a scrape to notice, its probably worth getting checked.
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Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:23 PM

View PostShep, on 12 June 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

As an Ex tyre fitter I would recommend you replace the tyre or at the very least get it checked at a reputable dealer.Painful as it may be on cost we only have two small points of contact on the ground on a motorcycle so they need to be 100%.

My 2 cents.

HTH :)



I'll second this answer.

I drove truck for years. A drive tire with a blemish, a repair, or damage is acceptable, because you have eight drive tires. If one fails, it's only a minor catastrophe. Ditto with a trailer tire. Steer tires, however, there are only two, and your life rides on them. A suspect steer tire is replaced immediately, without second thought or double checking.

Same philosophy applies to a bike. You only have two tires, one at each end. Everything depends on those tires. Your very life.

If you see a cut in a sidewall, replace it. Don't think twice, don't ask for a second opinion. You won't catch ME rolling around on a suspect motorcycle tire!
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